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 Registered Member #585 Joined: Sat Nov 29 2008, 12:05PMPosts: 5 | to paraphrse www.samknows.com:
(according to samknows, BT is the only network available where I am) Keep it up all you good guys; this is a deadly important issue and determines the whole future of the internet; if it becomes an embedded spy tool in everyone's home as a matter of course. Britain is ALREADY the most Surveillance Camera heavy area in the world - and plans are afoot to introduce traffic cameras to EVERY major road in the UK. (check the bbc; i will hunt for the link and post it, though its somewhat 'off topic.') edit: okay it wasn't the bbc, here it is: http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/25/2560.asp they are using that old and dubious chestnut 'global warming' as their excuse! [ Edited Sat Nov 29 2008, 01:13PM ] | ||
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| serial |
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  Registered Member #100 Joined: Wed Mar 05 2008, 06:22PMPosts: 667 | I wouldn't trust any BT reseller, just look at the PlusNet debacle where some of their users have been "accidentally" included in the new BT Webwise trials. Though BT Retail(ISP) and BT Wholesale(the reseller) are seperate, I no longer have any trust in anything that has the BT logo attached to it. http://parasitestxt.org/ (Personal opinion and statement in this forum post is my copyright and may not be used nor reproduced elsewhere without my permission. To request permission send a personal message using the button below.) | ||
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| Mel |
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 Registered Member #137 Joined: Sat Mar 08 2008, 06:00PMPosts: 322 | Phorm is being deployed on the BT Retail network. Most ISPs use BT Wholesale's network to provide the connection from end-users to their ISP. (BT Retail buy BT Wholesale's "Central Plus" product which also provides the last leg of the connection to the internet). ISPs have a contract with BT Wholesale to provide the connection, I doubt any would take too kindly to BT phorming their customers without their permission, I also doubt ofcomedy would permit it. It is possible that at some point BT Wholesale will offer phorming as an optional add-on service to ISPs (it may make offering a network level opt-out more practical to BT Retail if implemented by BT wholesale as a "Central plus + phorming" product), but they will not be able to compel any ISPs to use it.
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| felixcatuk |
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felixcatuk   Registered Member #95 Joined: Wed Mar 05 2008, 12:03AMPosts: 2584 | It might be technically practical, but it would remain practically impossible to operate legally... without risking Fraud, Computer Misuse, RIPA, Copyright, and ECHR complaints. [ Edited Sat Nov 29 2008, 07:57PM ] Ready to leave BT? Call 0800 800 030 / 0800 328 6738, get your MAC code | ||
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| Midnight_Voice |
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| Registered Member #180 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 08:51PMPosts: 753 | I believe that BT Wholesale have a healthy disdain for Phorm and have watched with horror as BT Retail exhibited a wholesale disregard for their customers, and indeed for any standards of decency. I'm a nonconPhormist; I won't be conned by Phorm | ||
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