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| Bob |
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 Registered Member #522 Joined: Wed Aug 13 2008, 04:09PMPosts: 5 | Talking to various people, they just haven't heard of phorm. I don't know if anyone has spoken to, or knows what the process is for speaking to, BBC watchdog. Just an idea from my good lady... | ||
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| felixcatuk |
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felixcatuk  Registered Member #95 Joined: Wed Mar 05 2008, 12:03AMPosts: 1102 | I've tried emailing them, didn't get a reply. BT/Virgin/TalkTalk customers - you don't need Webwise and Phorm, pure and simple. Regulators will not protect you from Phorm. Find a Phorm Free ISP. Protect your privacy. Protect your web content. Phorm must be stopped. www.Dephormation.org.uk: Free Anti-Phorm Countermeasures for Firefox Users and Web Sites Sign the No. 10 Downing Street Petition PhormUKPRTeam/PhormUKTechTeam is a PR consultant from Citigate Dewe Rogerson. | ||
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| Cowherd |
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 Registered Member #352 Joined: Fri Apr 18 2008, 08:28AMPosts: 82 | I have eMailed Watchdog about a couple of things in the past, never got a reply, either. Don't rate watchdog much. They seem to pick their cases based on media sensationalism rather than any real desire to help out the consumer. They really lose credibility when they get some shouty presenter grilling some company CEO over a cock-up his/her company made. Its bloody obvious that it was a genuine mistake and the guy has tried his best to put things right, but the presenter persists with his/her shouty and confrontational interview even though they, and the consumer they are 'championing', are now looking particularly stupid. Best tagline I've seen for Watchdog is:- "BBC Watchdog: protecting stupid people from themselves" Phorm, just say NO! | ||
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| Mel |
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 Registered Member #137 Joined: Sat Mar 08 2008, 06:00PMPosts: 273 | Cowherd wrote ... Don't rate watchdog much. They seem to pick their cases based on media sensationalism rather than any real desire to help out the consumer. I don't rate them much either. If there are any businesses that are concerned that the profiling of their communications with phormed customers being used by their competitors to target adverts at those customers, will cost them sales, then they could try approaching BBC2's Working Lunch. A less serious suggestion: We could put together a proposal for a superior system and try to get on Dragons Den - and explain the advantages of our system over Phorm, thereby informing the viewers about Phorm. ;) [ Edited Mon Aug 18 2008, 02:46PM ] | ||
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| Bob |
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| Registered Member #522 Joined: Wed Aug 13 2008, 04:09PMPosts: 5 | Mel - easy - We'll just put a video camera in every room of a house... Oh, no - wait that's been done... It's a front door lock that means you don't need to leave your spare keys with a neighbour, because anyone's key will work... Yeah, that'll catch on. | ||
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| Mel |
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| Registered Member #137 Joined: Sat Mar 08 2008, 06:00PMPosts: 273 | Bob wrote ... Mel - easy - We'll just put a video camera in every room of a house... Oh, no - wait that's been done... It's a front door lock that means you don't need to leave your spare keys with a neighbour, because anyone's key will work... Yeah, that'll catch on. LOL, I was thinking an ISP based spyware system that tracked users by piggy-backing on all the existing third-party cookie based tracking systems by capturing a user's tracking cookies, search engine cookies and cookies for major sites like amazon - the advantage being as it neither needs redirects or forges cookies, it would be completely undetectable (er, I mean transparent :) - unless users read their ISP's T&Cs. Data would be collected using voice recognition software from calls over phone services offered by bundled ISP and phone providers, and added to their profiles. Apart from spying on end-user's browsing and phone calls we could aggregate data about websites from end-user's communications with them. We could use DPI to offer value added services such as automatic price comparison on goods added to shopping carts - so when you click to add a product to you basket on a major retailer's site like amazon, a webpage pops-up offering the same product at a lower price - payment could be collected through the ISP cutting down on fraud, and as a website isnt needed by the seller - a bit like ebay, anybody could sell goods online using our system. :) [ Edited Tue Aug 19 2008, 06:45PM ] | ||
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| icsys |
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| Registered Member #398 Joined: Tue May 13 2008, 11:46PMPosts: 12 | Watchdog are not interested in Phorm. I contacted them several times back when the BBC were actually reporting on Phorm and its grubby profiling system. Zero response, zilch reply. [ Edited Tue Sep 02 2008, 04:48PM ] | ||
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| felixcatuk |
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| felixcatuk Registered Member #95 Joined: Wed Mar 05 2008, 12:03AMPosts: 1102 | There's something slightly surreal about all of this. Phorm strip people of the right to private data communications... yet few of the respectable media bat an eye lid, few Parliamentarians ask questions, the Police barely acknowledge it, BT/Virgin won't discuss it with their customers & shareholders, formerly respectable privacy campaigners go silent, and the BBC supposedly tasked with "sustaining citizenship and civil society" won't report on it. I find it very very very odd. I guess its down to us, to make as much noise about Phorm as we possibly can. [ Edited Tue Sep 02 2008, 09:21PM ] BT/Virgin/TalkTalk customers - you don't need Webwise and Phorm, pure and simple. Regulators will not protect you from Phorm. Find a Phorm Free ISP. Protect your privacy. Protect your web content. Phorm must be stopped. www.Dephormation.org.uk: Free Anti-Phorm Countermeasures for Firefox Users and Web Sites Sign the No. 10 Downing Street Petition PhormUKPRTeam/PhormUKTechTeam is a PR consultant from Citigate Dewe Rogerson. | ||
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