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 Registered Member #100 Joined: Wed Mar 05 2008, 06:22PMPosts: 158 | I suspect all 4 of the PR teams must share their login to this site, that would explain the constant repeating of the same tired information. | ||
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| Registered Member #132 Joined: Sat Mar 08 2008, 10:59AMPosts: 91 | serial wrote ... I suspect all 4 of the PR teams must share their login to this site, that would explain the constant repeating of the same tired information. Jim, can we get something in the AUP! I am only joking about this, doesn't bother me one bit, but aside google wrote to me telling me that two people couldn't share the same adsense account. Since the account is owned by my Ltd company it struck me as strange that any person working for X Ltd couldn't just sign in! | ||
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 Registered Member #137 Joined: Sat Mar 08 2008, 06:00PMPosts: 25 | PhormUKPRteam wrote ... Of course people are concerned about the trade off they think they have to make between getting a personalised service on the one hand and giving up personal data on the other - we agree that they shouldn't have to make that pay off. So are you happy to be served targeted ads by companies that use your personal data and store it for more than 12 months before it is even anonymised? Surely it is better by far to have a system that stores absolutely no personal information, no IP addresses and no browsing histories - like us or not, that's a better privacy environment than you currently get. I pay my provider to route MY traffic to the internet and the replies back. I do not need, nor desire to have MY traffic personalised. If it costs a little more for my traffic to go unmolested so I can retain a non-"personalised" service, I'm more than happy to pay it. I see the whole idea of my provider gaining money from processing my traffic as a major conflict of interests and would cease to consider a provider that implemented such a system as trustworthy or any data flowing over it to be secure. Having equipment installed in an ISP designed to intercept and analyse traffic en-mass, seems a crazy idea to me. I've fixed software bugs for a living, but I'm sure most people are aware that software bugs are a fact of life, so how can you possibly guarantee that all the "interception" equipment's software and your own software and the OS it is running on is free from flaws that could be discovered and exploited. When the potential value to a hacker or untrustworthy employee is so immense, I would have to question the wisdom of any ISP that would install such a thing and of any person that would be happy to remain a customer of such an ISP. [ Edited Wed Mar 26 2008, 04:36PM ] | ||
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| Registered Member #188 Joined: Sun Mar 16 2008, 05:00PMPosts: 21 | PhormUKspinteam wrote ... Hi all Everyone have a good Easter? Blah blah blah ... Yes I have thank you, a nice long weekend to collate all the anti-phorm articles and discussions. The Guardian news dumping Phorm was an extra Easter bonus and the Phorm share price drops! Great! Of course it doesn't really bother you if Phorm fails because after all you aren't a Phorm employee or shareholder, you are just a hired PR mouthpiece spinning the rubbish product. You'd be just as happy endorsing dogturds in a gift box if that was Phorms product, so we have sort of come to expect your chirpy interruptions. PhormUKspinteam wrote ... Online ad targeting is not going away; Blah blah blah... Yes it is! We have Firefox plug-in's that make it go away 'Adblock Plus' https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 here is the URL so that even YOU PhormPRteam can make those adverts go away.. (you'll feel so much better after using it, no more irrelevant adverts!). If you PM me I'll even tell you how to skip over the irrelevant adverts on your PVR TV recorder. | ||
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 Registered Member #221 Joined: Wed Mar 19 2008, 07:41AMPosts: 7 | I don't know guys, maybe you shouldn't be too hard on the Phorm Comms team. They're only trying to put their point of view across. I've just read every one of their posts and I'm beginning to think Phorm isn't really such a bad thing. So what, someone in future *could* turn the system into an oppressive dictatorship's favourite toy - your mobile phone *could* be about to give you cancer and your mum is probably a bigger threat to your privacy than Phorm. Well mine is, she keeps entering my details whenever there's a chance of a free cash prize or a free sample or Marmite because she thinks I want it or I have a chance of winning. Thanks Comms team, you have enlightened me. Boys - time to pack up camp and call it a day. | ||
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| Registered Member #100 Joined: Wed Mar 05 2008, 06:22PMPosts: 158 | Please don't troll here Jimbo ;-) | ||
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| Registered Member #180 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 08:51PMPosts: 41 | PhormUKPRteam wrote ... Hi all Everyone have a good Easter? Pleasantries - how nice! I guess we should reciprocate with (anonymised channel info: Children's Birthday Parties; March 2008) [ Edited Wed Mar 26 2008, 08:48PM ] Big Brother: a programme people watch, or a program watching people? | ||
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 Registered Member #147 Joined: Mon Mar 10 2008, 11:13AMPosts: 36 | Phorm PR Droids - You just dont get it do you? Its MY data, I Pay My ISP to route my traffic not to pimp my data to parasitic companies. IF I choose to visit websites that may track my movements in some way, thats MY choice to make - to visit or not. I accept advertising from websites as a trade off for the content provided to me. If my browsing history has value, then any decision about the "disposal" of that "valuable data" is MINE to make, NOT my ISP's and NOT yours. I have phishing protection in my browser - should I need it - I pay scant regard to advertising so it wont "enrich" my browsing, and in any case just who the hell are you or your advertisers to assume that because I am browsing that I am shopping? Such assumptions actually DETRACT from my browsing experience Please dont try the "poor penniless ISP" story on me either, most of them have slashed prices to uneconomic levels in the blind persuit of subscribers, they then impose draconian FUP's caps and throttles on people. Thankfully some ISps out there have realistic pricing, and no intention of getting onto bed with parasites while using the "we are doing it to keep your costs down" excuse. The company employing you has no "product", it is just a parasitic intrusion into the privacy of internet users. If it were the great advance you claim, the PR barrage from you wouldnt be neccessary. P.S. I had a great Easter AND I managed to do all my shopping without any need of an "enriched internet experience" | ||
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| Registered Member #101 Joined: Thu Mar 06 2008, 12:35AMPosts: 35 | PhormUKPRteam wrote ... Hi all Everyone have a good Easter? blah blah I was going to give you a reasoned response but cant be arsed - you took a hit today and your share price dropped /look I'm smiling :) ESADMFB Oh and whats this advertising thingy you keep going on about... /goes looks it up ....oh that! sorry thats for the suckers - everyone I know uses Firefox and adblocker/adblocker filterset.g updater... never see any adds :) [ Edited Wed Mar 26 2008, 10:34PM ] | ||
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| Registered Member #219 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 10:59PMPosts: 4 | PhormUKPRteam wrote ... Online ad targeting is not going away; something the Guardian confirms in its statement. The reason that we've had such an enthusiastic response from the companies that we meet is that the Phorm system can earn ISPs and publishers - big and small - more money to plough back into the services you receive today - most of them for free. If not ad funding, then what other way is the Internet going to be paid for? Most Internet publishers have abandoned subscriptions because not enough people are actually prepared to pay when it comes down to it. word for word what you posted on cable forum. Well done you really earnt you money today! | ||
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