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Paladine
Tue Mar 18 2008, 05:05PM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7303426.stm

So it seems Phorm lied again, 80/20 Thinking don't actually give them their support.

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EtherDreams
Tue Mar 18 2008, 05:10PM
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uh... must be going blind... what is the link to download the report?
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Paladine
Tue Mar 18 2008, 05:15PM
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As it states in the article, the report is not yet published. (See last paragraph of BBC article)

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Oblonsky
Tue Mar 18 2008, 05:18PM
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This is rather a long list of improvements and, with all due respect to Simon and Gus, shows knowledge lacking in the intricacies of auditing software to prove it remains legal.

How can you detect all password-protected content anyway? Answer: whitelist of websites. How long would this list be? What happens if some websites introduce password protected content at a later date...

I know Phorm will probably spin some smooth line about proprietary methods to detect and ignore protected websites. How will they do that? Some sites use HTTP authentication, that would be easy to spot, but many use session cookies. Sessions can stay open for Months! But whats the difference between a session cookie where a password's been entered and a normal session cookie used to track repeat visitors?

There's only one way we can ensure this and any other ad system remains within the law - stop the equipment going in now! I know a week ago I said I would be happy if it was opt-in and my traffic bypassed Phorm completely, but this kind of bullying and pushing on with flawed arguments shows a lack of respect - would you trust people who show you no respect?
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EtherDreams
Tue Mar 18 2008, 05:23PM
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Oh, OK... I stopped reading before the end and then just scanned for a link. I thought I couldn't find it.

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TheOtherSteve
Tue Mar 18 2008, 05:25PM
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Yeah, they also state that Phorm should not prophile any websites with sexual content, etc. How are you going to know which ones these are ?

Some pretty big players in the security market have 'net nanny' style products on the market, all of which show that the only effective way to prevent access to sites containing 'sexual content' is to ONLY allow access to a few sites from a parental whitelist.

Or do Phorm have a great big list of every pr0n site in the world ? If so is that why KE comes across as such a massive w***er ?
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Paladine
Tue Mar 18 2008, 05:27PM
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Had to laugh at that Steve

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Oblonsky
Tue Mar 18 2008, 05:27PM
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TheOtherSteve: you made me laugh for the first time in 2 weeks.

If the report was a glowing endorsement why not release it on Feb 14th?

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Paladine
Tue Mar 18 2008, 05:28PM
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Oblonsky wrote ...

TheOtherSteve: you made me laugh for the first time in 2 weeks.

If the report was a glowing endorsement why not release it on Feb 14th?




Because even on Valentine's Day most people don't get that well phucked.


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TheOtherSteve
Tue Mar 18 2008, 05:31PM
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I think it's interesting that the article says it's an "interim report", e.g that it isn't finished yet. Also that all the quoted parts seem to be questions to Phorm, rather than endorsements of it.

As y'all have said, if it was so glowing, we would have seen it by now, CDR would be pasting bits of it all over the web.
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