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 Registered Member #657 Joined: Fri May 01 2009, 06:32PMPosts: 757 | 6th September 2011 BT Correspondence Centre Providence Row Durham DH98 1BT To whom it may concern, It has come to my attention that it is the intention of BT/Yahoo to intercept any and all emails sent from my email account to a BT/Yahoo customer along with those sent from a BT/Yahoo to my account. As you are well aware this is illegal under RIPA 2000 and the amendments made by the UK government in order to comply with the EU directive on privacy. These state that prior informed consent from both sender and recipient is necessary before any such interception can take place. My consent will NOT be forthcoming and you will cease and desist any attempt to intercept and scan any emails from or to the following email addresses, I am not a BT customer and am not bound by your dubious terms and conditions, which fall foul of the Unfair Terms and Conditions in Contract regulations and are therefore unenforceable in law. Furthermore the content of any email sent is the copyright of the sender and as such the scanning of the content of the said email is a breach of the sender’s copyright. I refer you to your own statements on your website and in your terms and conditions. Up to the 26th July 2011 2.6 The Services identify words, links, people and subjects from your email messages and other messages that are archived (including instant messages) to learn what matters to you so that Yahoo! can analyse, review and categorise this information for immediate and future use including, without limitation, to provide personally relevant product features and content, more relevant advertisements and for spam and malware detection. Amended on the 27th July 2011 2.6 The Services identify words, links, people and subjects from your email messages and other messages that are archived (including instant messages) to learn what matters to you so that Yahoo! can analyse, review and categorise this information for immediate and future use including, without limitation, to provide personally relevant product features and content, more relevant advertisements and for spam and malware detection. The information gathered during this process is not used for interest matched advertising. If you consent to this ATOS you are responsible for obtaining consent to this feature from other users you communicate with via the Services. Amended on 28th July 2011 2.6 The Services identify words, links, people and subjects from your email messages and other messages that are archived (including instant messages) to learn what matters to you so that Yahoo! can analyse, review and categorise this information for immediate and future use including, without limitation, to provide personally relevant product features and content and for spam and malware detection. The information gathered during this process is not used for interest matched advertising. If you consent to this ATOS you are responsible for obtaining consent to this feature from other users you communicate with via the Services. Amended 9th August 2011 – current version 2.6 The Services use automated scanning of your email messages (including archived messages) and other messages that are archived (including instant messages) to enable spam and malware detection and to enable delivery of enhanced product features (such as applications to handle attachments) that you may find useful. The information gathered during this analysis is not used for interest matched advertising. Yahoo! Global Communications Additional Terms of Service for Yahoo! Mail and Yahoo! Messenger http://info.yahoo.com/legal/uk/yahoo/mail/atos.html By using the Services, you consent to allow Yahoo!’s automated systems to scan and analyze all incoming and outgoing communications content sent and received from your account (such as Mail and Messenger content including instant messages and SMS messages) including those stored in your account to, without limitation, provide personally relevant product features and content, to match and serve targeted advertising and for spam and malware detection and abuse protection. Unless expressly stated otherwise, you will not be allowed to opt out of this feature. If you consent to this ATOS and communicate with non-Yahoo! users using the Services, you are responsible for notifying those users about this feature. Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://info.yahoo.com/privacy/uk/yahoo/mail/beta/details.html Personally Relevant Experiences Yahoo! provides personally relevant product features, content, advertising, spam and malware detection by analysing your emails. Some of these features and advertising will be based on our understanding of the content and meaning of your emails. For instance, we analyse email messages to identify key elements of meaning and then categorise this information for immediate and future use. Please read our FAQ to learn more.This information may also be used for interest-based advertising. To learn more, you can visit Yahoo!’s control tool for interest-based advertising. RIPA as amended in May 2011 REQUIRES such bilateral prior explicit informed consent of both sender and recipient of an intercepted communication under RIPA Part I rules. The UK government made the change in RIPA under the threat of court action from the EU Commission, Pingus cc Information Commissioner’s Office cc Cabinet Office cc Home Office cc EU Commissioner’s Office cc Deputy Prime Minister cc Greater Manchester Police cc DCMS | ||
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| Registered Member #657 Joined: Fri May 01 2009, 06:32PMPosts: 757 | Dear Mr , Thank you for your correspondence to the Information Commissioners Office (ICO), dated 6 September 2011. The information you have provided will be retained on our files for information only. Should you wish us to look into this matter further we would ask you to contact our Helpline on 0303 123 1113 quoting the above reference number. One of our advisers will then be able to discuss the matter with you and explain the options available to you. Yours sincerely Tim Clarke (ext 5686). Sent on behalf of Mr Paul Arnold Head of Customer Contact. Would you like to provide anonymous feedback about your experience as an ICO customer? Don't choke on your cuppa over this next bit We are committed to learning from the experiences of our customers. If you would like to provide some anonymous feedback about your experience as an ICO customer please click here. We use all feedback to help us continuously improve our service, focussing on the things that are most important to our customers. The survey contains three questions and we expect that it takes no more than one minute to complete. No personal data will be collected as part of completing this survey | ||
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 Registered Member #287 Joined: Thu Apr 03 2008, 09:06PMPosts: 380 | They are serious! "We are committed to learning from the experiences of our customers" means "without awkward buggers like you, we'd never learn how to dodge the issues so successfully!" | ||
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  Registered Member #483 Joined: Wed Jul 16 2008, 03:27PMPosts: 3 | @PingusPeriratus, any update on this? | ||
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 Registered Member #372 Joined: Wed Apr 23 2008, 04:09PMPosts: 574 | I can't answer for Pingus, but I have a police case going on BTYahoo/Yahoo UK email interception - its got to the CID investigation stage - it didn't get rejected straight away - and its been very quiet for a few months now. I don't know whether that is a good thing or a bad thing. AFAIK they haven't dropped it. All my mail via BT is set via the Classic mail interface to be forwarded immediately to a 3rd party domain mail system. I never updated to the new BTY mail interface so in theory I never consented to interception/scanning (nor did anyone who corresponds with me). All my folders on BT mail servers remain empty. Given the current fuss over google privacy (and the NOTW case, and the creation of an Interception Commissioner who can look at things done by private individuals and companies) I think things are slowly looking up. It's important that the new Interception Commissioner gets sent details of all and any cases that the police reject. His first statutory duty is to decide if there was a criminal INTENTIONAL interception (and if he says there was, then it goes back to the police!) - if not - then he has to decide if there was UNintentional interception (which is his line of interest) and then what monetary penalty to impose. I'm preparing a submission for him right now on some BlueCoat clients in the UK. Police wouldn't touch it so now the way is clear to approach him with it. | ||
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| Registered Member #657 Joined: Fri May 01 2009, 06:32PMPosts: 757 | @Midnight Caller No reply to date I am about to send another letter to BT to ask them why they didnt acknowledge my letter of September. Copying to the usual suspects of course. | ||
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| Registered Member #657 Joined: Fri May 01 2009, 06:32PMPosts: 757 | letters to BT and Greater Manchester Police on the way emailed copies to EU | ||
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