BadPhorm - When good ISPs go bad! : Forum Posts / en-gb This site is powered by e107, which is released under the terms of the GNU GPL License.The contents of this site, and communications between this site and its users, are protected by database right, copyright, confidentiality and the right not to be intercepted conferred by section 1(3) of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000. The use of those contents and communications by Internet Service Providers or others to profile or classify users of this site for advertising or other purposes is strictly forbidden. Jim Murray - [email protected] [email protected] Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:04:37 +0000 Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:04:37 +0000 http://backend.userland.com/rss e107 (http://e107.org) 60 BadPhorm - When good ISPs go bad! : Forum Posts http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_images/button.png / 88 31 Search Search BadPhorm - When good ISPs go bad! query http://www.badphorm.co.uk/search.php PI: Privacy International Releases its 2008 Annual Report http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9533 PI site (which has been remarkably quiet this year) including

Privacy International Releases its 2008 Annual Report

Some of the coverage was certainly negative, particularly when two PI staff members were implicated in the deployment of the controversial Phorm advertising service. Phorm named PI as endorsers of the service even though Privacy International had not officially engaged with Phorm, and it took a while to correct this error.

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felixcatuk<[email protected]> Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:24:45 +0000 http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9533
Re: Merry Christmas! http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9529 ]]> redbaron<[email protected]> Fri, 26 Dec 2008 21:00:34 +0000 http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9529 Re: Merry Christmas! http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9529 serial<[email protected]> Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:15:30 +0000 http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9529 Re: Merry Christmas! http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9529 felixcatuk wrote ...

Merry Christmas everyone.

And a happy New Year.



Ditto :)
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SelfProtection<[email protected]> Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:31:38 +0000 http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9529
Merry Christmas! http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9529
And a happy New Year.]]>
felixcatuk<[email protected]> Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:36:20 +0000 http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9529
Guardian: Tech Weekly: review of 2008 http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9528 Tech Weekly: review of 2008
Coverage starts at 19:48
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felixcatuk<[email protected]> Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:01:30 +0000 http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9528
Re: Facebook users privacy http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9525
If you're familiar with Facebook and a regular user you might be well placed.

The strength of the campaign so far has been the willingness of individuals to spread the word.]]>
felixcatuk<[email protected]> Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:54:22 +0000 http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9525
Re: phorm a designers nightmare. http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9524
I've recently received a 3 page letter full of hollow excuses for inaction from the ICO.

Sharing your entire communication traffic - what you read, what you search for, what you buy, what you write - with a third party is about as intrusive as it is possible to get.

Doing that in secret to tens or even hundreds of thousands of people, you would expect, would get you prosecuted and jailed.

At least, that's what you'd expect.

The reasons why no one is in prison yet are just a complete mystery to me.

Copyright theft, industrial espionage, and that's before you start to contemplate the personal privacy intrusion.

There is something very wrong about the whole Phorm affair. It stinks.
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felixcatuk<[email protected]> Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:47:06 +0000 http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9524
Facebook users privacy http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9525
BT has over 500,000 customers who use facebook - its the latest craze, and facebook is famous for when the users put up the pressure they react -

so how about - this for a group

"We do not want our profiles, written content viewable by BT and phorm, when we joined facebook we did not do so with the fact that by simply browsing our profiles BT users were feeding a third party website specific details written on our profiles to be used for advertising! we dont even get a penny from that advertising so why should our lives be sent via third parties to some company?"

Probably needs to be written much better too but it sounds good.

Get 2 or 3 million users to sign up to that group and you might well have a pressure group and if facebook ended up blocking BT the phorm trial would be a fiasco and end up all over the news - which in turn would give other companies enough warning to steer clear of it.

Of course in the real world stuff like that rarely works, but if you do get enough people it might just throw phorm right into the public eye on mainstream news channels.]]>
blackbeard<[email protected]> Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:17:03 +0000 http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9525
phorm a designers nightmare. http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9524
Log users real details whenever they sign up to any website which has a confirm details page
Log what a user bought, where they bought it and how they paid - when it logs the checkout page of any site which has a print page to confirm order

Im not a solicitor, but any idiot knows thats bound to breach the data protection act all by itself.




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blackbeard<[email protected]> Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:10:24 +0000 http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9524
Neowin BT doing more trials. http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9523 http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/12/16/bt-and-virgin-media-to-press-ahead-with-phorm

[Mod edit - made a clicky]
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blackbeard<[email protected]> Mon, 22 Dec 2008 04:57:39 +0000 http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9523
TelecomTV:Big Brother is as Big Brother does. Phorm makes its ex-CEO an unperson http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9522 Deserves an award for the best headline yet conceived in this saga;

Big Brother is as Big Brother does. Phorm makes its ex-CEO an unperson

It's software has been called "Orwellian" and now Phorm, the controversial behavioural targeting company that tracks users online habits, has adopted the methods of the "Ministry of Truth" and airbrushed its newly-resigned CEO out of corporate history.
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felixcatuk<[email protected]> Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:51:19 +0000 http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9522
Re: Times: Phorm is out to alter world of online advertising http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9515
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Midnight_Voice<[email protected]> Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:53:52 +0000 http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9515
Re: BBC: Phorm - Opt In or Opt Out? http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9487
I particularly enjoyed reading the technical explanation of why browsing is broken by the browser hijack posted in #13

'User's of my favourite browser are likely to have problems with BT Webwise if they block third party (cross-domain) cookies as my browser blocks all access to all cookies after a cross-domain redirect. This is a really neat privacy enhancing feature to stop web sites from sharing cookies across domains using the redirect method (as used by Phorm), unfortunately on a "phormed" connection it will not only stop Webwise accessing its cookies, but also block cookies for the site you are visiting after a Phorm Webwise redirect occurs. This could for example result in the content of your shopping cart going missing, or you being logged out of a forum when you try to post."

If only all browsers behaved like this by default.]]>
madslug<[email protected]> Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:32:25 +0000 http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9487
Re: Times: Phorm is out to alter world of online advertising http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9515
I am sure it is meant to sound like a benefit but, aiming to display one advert per day? Just search for something and the search engine will offer upwards of 20 adverts and 20+ relevant sites. Plus the contextual ads that will be displayed on any sites visited. And the OIX come along with one little ad somewhere. If I were an advertiser, I would be looking at a click through probability a little higher than that.]]>
madslug<[email protected]> Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:45:42 +0000 http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9515