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 Registered Member #181 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 10:48PMPosts: 134 | See http://digg.com/tech_news/BT_commited_113_million_allegedly_illegal_acts_in_8_days Alexander Hanff | ||
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| Cogster |
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 Registered Member #255 Joined: Wed Mar 26 2008, 05:52PMPosts: 103 | Oh yes.. Nice find... :D Hardly a small scale technical trail? Send it to the ICO!! | ||
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| Registered Member #181 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 10:48PMPosts: 134 | They can get the full report (minus personally identifiable information) from: https://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/Image:BT_Report.pdf Alexander Hanff [Mod Edit clicky link] [ Edited Fri Jun 06 2008, 05:48PM ] | ||
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 Registered Member #183 Joined: Fri Mar 14 2008, 11:31AMPosts: 108 | As I just posted on the BT forums after seeing this, I'll just C&P my post from there: It takes really sleazy types to do the stuff alleged there. If this turns out to be accurate (not that I doubt Alex, just that things have to be proven obviously) then the whole of the boards of BT and phorm from that time, and since who knew about this whole situation should be held accountable to the maximum extent that the law allows. That is truly despicable behaviour. I went and created a digg account, and followed the link to push the story up. Up until now, I have had no interest in joining digg to vote the stories up, this one however is just too much. Companies or individuals that would steal from or rob a charity are pure scum. No ifs, no buts, no excuses. | ||
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| Registered Member #92 Joined: Tue Mar 04 2008, 07:20PMPosts: 38 | As per MarkH this one has given me a bit more impetus... for some reason firefox never showed the captcha when I'd been before. Dusted off IE and we're away. This really has taken things to a whole new level. | ||
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| Sammy |
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Sammy   Registered Member #143 Joined: Sun Mar 09 2008, 08:36PMPosts: 637 | Just done the math. 113 Million breaches of Law 18'000 customers = 785 DAILY breaches of Law EACH or 6278 for the 8 days EACH [ Edited Thu Jun 05 2008, 07:42AM ] | ||
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| Sammy Registered Member #143 Joined: Sun Mar 09 2008, 08:36PMPosts: 637 | Another thought: An example is provided of a UID (which the report refers to as IT - completely disregarding the fact that IT is in fact a HUMAN BEING). This shows clearly that BT CAN provide the details of the Interceptions, of which they have constantly claimed they could not. Couple this with the fact that IP Addresses were used - Is it conceivable that BT WILL be aware of WHO were used in the trial? | ||
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| Midnight_Voice |
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 Registered Member #180 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 08:51PMPosts: 756 | Sammy wrote ... Another thought: An example is provided of a UID (which the report refers to as IT - completely disregarding the fact that IT is in fact a HUMAN BEING). This shows clearly that BT CAN provide the details of the Interceptions, of which they have constantly claimed they could not. Couple this with the fact that IP Addresses were used - Is it conceivable that BT WILL be aware of WHO were used in the trial? That UID almost certainly belonged to one of the internal BT triallists, not a randomly chosen customer. The triallist would have been tasked to visit certain sites, and then go to an ad-serving site and see if (s)he got a relevant ad. Paragraph previously here deleted at Alex Hanff's request, and following the fine example of Phorm's attempt to rewrite their Wikipedia entry. Here's something to read instead - guess what book it is from: "Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every prediction made by the Party could be shown by documentary evidence to have been correct, nor was any item of news, or any expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the moment, ever allowed to remain on record. All history was a palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as was necessary." What does concern me, though, was that BT knew about the Javascript leaking out on some forums, could see the pain and concern of the affected users, worrying did they have malware, a virus or whatever. And yet BT did nothing to ally their fears, merely making a note to ensure that 121Media bigged their 'product' up to correct such perceptions. The cold, callous, bastards. I also wonder about the Helpdesk thing. We know that in 2007, BT apparently never told the Helpdesk. So how could BT know if a user had PageSense issues or not? I suspect they were trawling the Helpdesk records too, looking for PageSense issues. And then doing nothing to help either that user, or their own Helpdesk staff. So they are cold, callous, uncaring employers, too. But the whole report had me minded of the words of Jeff Goldblum's character in 'Jurassic Park'. "You were so busy trying to figure out if you could do it, that you never stopped to think if you should do it." Now, where do we get the 2007 report? [ Edited Fri Jun 06 2008, 09:52AM ] | ||
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| Sammy Registered Member #143 Joined: Sun Mar 09 2008, 08:36PMPosts: 637 | Another question The websites at the end of the report - were they the sites that provided the ads or the sites that posted the ads. Anyone from BT know the answer - private mail me. | ||
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| Paladine |
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| Registered Member #181 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 10:48PMPosts: 134 | Yeah the confused me too, I couldn't find any reference to them in the document, they just seemed tagged on at the end with no explanation as to what they actually were. Alexander Hanff | ||
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