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Wikipedia Revisionist with a BT IP address
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Mel
Fri Apr 04 2008, 05:54PM
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It looks like someone with a BT IP address has a go at sanitising the wikipedia article on Phorm this morning, but wikipedia's contributers seem to be on the ball as they had reverted the article within minutes.

"revert - last edit took out all the neutrally worded and referenced criticism and made phorm out to be awesome and perfect)"


http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phorm&action=history

seems to be a very small IP address block...

http://samspade.org/whois/217.40.254.161

Asked whois.ripe.net:43 about 217.40.254.161)

inetnum: 217.40.254.160 - 217.40.254.167
netname: BTADSL-0000000000005942
descr: BT-ADSL



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Cogster
Fri Apr 04 2008, 06:00PM
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sneaky sods.. maybe someone who's stock has taken a hit?
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Sammy
Fri Apr 04 2008, 06:00PM
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Mel
Fri Apr 04 2008, 06:03PM
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Cogster wrote ...

sneaky sods.. maybe someone who's stock has taken a hit?


I am wondering if it might be a BT employee, shear speculation of course.
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Cogster
Fri Apr 04 2008, 06:14PM
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To be honest, if that were so I'd have given them the credit of at least using a free competitior dial up to mask ip....

Positive and well worded (for the oposition) i thought... Not yer average hack..



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Midnight_Voice
Fri Apr 04 2008, 06:24PM
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A great deal of the Phorm boilerplate used, I notice. And done by someone who doesn't quite understand how Wikipedia editing works.

I can't see BT wanting to do this - although right now, why would anybody put anything past them?

But I know who I think are the most probable culprits....
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Midnight_Voice
Fri Apr 04 2008, 06:36PM
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Email just despatched:

To: abuse@btopenworld.com

Subject Clear case of Internet Abuse

Hi

Someone posting from 217.40.254.161 at 08:33 this morning carried out a major hack on a Wikipedia article entitled 'Phorm'.

Fortunately, this was repaired within minutes, but whoever was posting from this address fell far below the standards of ethics expected.

Could you please consult your logs, establish who this was, and ensure that a suitable admonishment and warning is delivered?

Thanking you in advance
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Mel
Fri Apr 04 2008, 08:18PM
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Midnight_Voice wrote ...

A great deal of the Phorm boilerplate used, I notice. And done by someone who doesn't quite understand how Wikipedia editing works.

I can't see BT wanting to do this - although right now, why would anybody put anything past them?

But I know who I think are the most probable culprits....


I guess you are probably right, but if you are thinking it might be the phroncommsteam, they've already been pointed to Wikipedia's policy on conflict of interests.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Phorm


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davews
Fri Apr 04 2008, 08:31PM
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A BT IP address editing on WP by itself does not mean much, after all I have one myself... But in view of his edits you have to draw conclusions. It was me who pointed out the conflict of interest - and the WP robots had noticed as well. Maybe doing an anonymous edit gets round the problem of having a give away user name like he did last time, but you would have thought he would have registered with a user name you couldn't draw anything from rather than an IP address which gives the game away...

The WP article is now looking quite good, and for one which contains a fair amount of controversial content has survived the usual WP policy censors remarkably well..

Dave


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Quiscustodiet
Sat Apr 05 2008, 02:50AM
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Mel wrote ...
It looks like someone with a BT IP address has a go at sanitising the wikipedia article on Phorm this morning...

I don't want to appear discouraging, but anyone who is into editing Wikipedia might be well advised to prepare for the long haul.

Look, for example, at the reference for Villanueva Nunez (with an n-tilde) and compare it with what you find on Wired, for example. He tried to bring Open Source principles into Peru's government in 2002. There isn't even a mention on Wiki of his 'BIll 1609', which, rightly or wrongly, some see as a milestone.
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