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serial
Wed Apr 02 2008, 08:22PM

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 searching for -> tad/app

reveals a few web counter stats:
i.e. http://cqcounter.com/?sts,refer,,5,,fwhu,,,380
14th Sept: http://dns.sysip.net/services/nslookup/tad/app=PS&v=1.2.11&site=I.ETHOS.LIVE&size=tad&
rnd=4372251&referer-kw=freerandi,seg%C3%ADts%C3%A9g,nem,az&referer=
http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freerandi.hu%2F&xinfopsid=0&

14th Nov 2006: http://dns.sysip.net/services/nslookup/tad/app=PS&v=1.2.15.1&site=I.ETHOS.LIVE&size=tad&
rnd=1189799&search-tr=%22montana%22%2B%22governor's%20task%20force%20on%20endowments%20and%20philanthropy%22&r

The 14th seems a popular date.
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Phormic Acid
Wed Apr 02 2008, 08:46PM

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 serial, you’re very good at coming up with search terms. I now have another one of those really problematic examples. This time from the University of Rochester Website Statistics.

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http://dns.sysip.net/services/nslookup/tad/app=PS
&v=1.2.8
&site=I.38463733.LIVE
&size=tad
&rnd=7746485
&search-tr=how%20am%20i%20tested%20for%20std%3F
&referer-kw=info%20std%20testing,
[ image disabled ]google,
[ image disabled ]search,
[ image disabled ]tested%20std,
[ image disabled ]web,
[ image disabled ]links,
[ image disabled ]affordable,
[ image disabled ]district%20columbia,
[ image disabled ]information%20teens
&referer=http://www.google.com/search%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3DHow+Am+I+Tested+For+STD%253F
&xinfopsid=0
&format=html
&orig=http://www.rochester.edu/uhs/healthtopics/SexualHealth/std/stdTesting.html
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I particularly like the search term that’s been pulled from the referrer, along with referrer keywords of ‘affordable’ and ‘teens’.

[ Edited Wed Apr 02 2008, 08:47PM ]
If you can read all my HTTP traffic, you’re standing too close.
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Phormic Acid
Wed Apr 02 2008, 08:58PM

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 It’s just dawned on me that I’m coming up with predominantly American stuff. My previous example was for the US. While it could have been a Brit who travels to the US who posted on the gay personals forum that has already been referred to, that website is also American-based. I have to conclude that Phorm could have done a lot of their testing in the USA. What we have been attributing to BT may not have been part of their 2006 trial. This would explain why we’re getting dates far outside the range given in the media.

[ Edited Wed Apr 02 2008, 08:59PM ]
If you can read all my HTTP traffic, you’re standing too close.
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serial
Wed Apr 02 2008, 09:01PM

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 Could be that where we see:
site=I.38463733.LIVE
site=I.ETHOS.LIVE

These sites could be different ISPs.
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Wed Apr 02 2008, 09:09PM

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 And what would these be?
PSpc="I.754701.1
PSpc="I.287303.1
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serial
Wed Apr 02 2008, 09:26PM

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 Just guessing, but could the ethos be something to do with this company:

Ethos networks

Who attended the Ethernet Expo: Europe 2007

With the likes of:
Matt Beal, Director of Core Convergence, BT Wholesale
Jeff Bacon, Head of Product Management, Ethernet Solutions, ntl:Telewest Business
Chris Ducker, Senior Product Manager, Ethernet Solutions, ntl:Telewest Business
Tim Hubbard, Head of 21CN Solutions Strategy, BT
Andy Sutton, Principal Design Consultant, Transport Networks - CNDD, Orange UK

This is purely based on my Google searching so may mean nothing.
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serial
Wed Apr 02 2008, 09:55PM

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 Sorry I also missed off this attendee:

Neil Sugden, Network Consultant, Transmode Systems

Neil joined Transmode Systems in December 2007 where as a Network Consultant he works with U.K. service providers to develop iWDM strategies leveraging the individual attributes of each network. He is a seasoned professional with over 15 years industry experience. Previously he worked as a Senior Network Architect for Virgin Media, where he was responsible for core, regional, and metro optical architectures. Neil developed industry-leading architectures including high availability, GbE LLU backhaul, 2-touch SDH, and 3-touch WDM. Prior to Virgin, he managed a vibrant NOC environment. This operational experience, coupled with commercial and strategic acumen, has shaped the architectures Neil continues to deliver.
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Mel
Wed Apr 02 2008, 09:57PM
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Frank Rizzo wrote ...

There's no better example than the raisingkids example.

This shows that non technical 'family users' seeking advice on kids were targeted and affected by what 121media were doing.

Use that as an example and you'll get much more people taking notice of what was going on.


Another one from the raising kids forum might be a better example.

http://www.raisingkids.co.uk/talk/forum_posts.asp?TID=17774&PID=248891


[ Edited Wed Apr 02 2008, 09:58PM ]
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Mel
Wed Apr 02 2008, 10:06PM
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 This looks like another one, but its not sysip.net

<script type="text/javascript"> <!-- var PSpc="I.AIRIMBA.TEST",PSsize="tadd,popunder"; // --> </script> <script src="http://ps-s.02320.net/tag/2.js" type="text/javascript"></script>

http://www.wretch.cc/blog/tzuhsuan&article_id=2995271
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serial
Wed Apr 02 2008, 10:17PM

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 Could the PSpc tag be an ISP identifier also for a different trial?
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